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hello everybody and welcome once again to the unlearned podcast.
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This is the podcast that is helping you gain the courage to change your mind so that you can experience more freedom, and I am your host with abigail aka ra what up?
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what up?
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It's your girl, jaquita.
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What's up we in these money streets?
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Okay, so we just gonna jump right in.
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We ain't gonna do the little back and forth how you doing kind of thing, we just jumping into the money.
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See you two used to being married.
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You want to be cared about.
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Who's?
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Abigail, how are you?
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How's your day, how's your week?
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Are you feeling purposeful, you feeling fulfilled?
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How's that going?
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yes, I am.
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It's been a good week.
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I'm feeling purposeful, I'm feeling fulfilled.
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So, yes, thank you for asking Jaquita, how are you?
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I'm sorry.
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Alright, I apologize.
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Quick, funny note I saw this, this meme or this little thing on Instagram where it was a guy who was texting this girl.
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He was like hello, nicole, did you forget you had a relationship?
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And she said I'm so sorry, I've been single so long I forgot.
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He was like I haven't heard from you in weeks.
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She was like, and then she said you want something to eat?
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You hungry?
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Hilarious, hilarious, okay.
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So sometimes we single folks forget to check in, but it's all right, just know that you're loved, you're adored, I care a lot about you, but my week has been, my week's been really fantastic.
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You know, out here I just I'm loving the relationships that I'm learning and growing in and you know we're just out here in these streets, making a difference.
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You know imparting into the young adult leaders All right, we're here for y'all.
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We, the middle adults, we're here, we love you and we're here to share our ups and downs, highs and lows.
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My Lord.
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You know great moments, proud moments and not so prideful moments.
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And not so proud moments.
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You know what I'm saying.
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We'll put it out there for you.
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One of the things that we have some proud moments and not so proud moments in is the money.
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Let's talk about the money.
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Let's talk about what it looks like to unlearn money.
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Let's do it.
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There's been a lot of apprehension coming to this day.
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Weida has not wanted to talk about this.
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Let's just put it all out there.
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I have been delaying this one.
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I have been delaying this one.
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I have been literally this one, you know, I just feel like one money is something that you don't.
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You know.
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First you have to understand why you have the relationship with money that you have.
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You know like you grew up seeing money being used a certain way, you know, and then that kind of like goes and puts you in a tailspin of like having to learn.
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You know your relationship with Monday, and one thing I always say is that I really know, believe and understand God as a provider, because I have gotten myself in some positions where it was like, okay, lord, I would like to, now that I done messed this up, I would like to now put this in your hands, lord.
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Could you but please, father, god, help your daughter get out of this particular situation, because here we are again and so we had to trust, we had to trust the Lord to bring it back.
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And so you know it's been a relationship with money.
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Not that I have a bad relationship with money.
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I have a growing one.
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I used to tell my students that character is not good or bad.
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Character is either developed or undeveloped.
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So it's not that you are good or bad with money.
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You have either developed some good money habits or you haven't, and it's just straight like that, you know.
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So I think that you know we're here today to talk to you about our stories of development.
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Okay, and here to tell you all about the things.
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So we found this article, um, and it's by the business insider, and we're just going to, like, take some of these things and just talk from, talk about it from our perspective.
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But they did a survey.
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Uh, this was a few years ago, but they did a survey where they were they're listing the seven hardest things you'll ever have to do with your money.
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Okay, and so when we're reading through this, it was like, oh yeah, we gonna tick all those off the list, cause that's true, like those are definitely things that we have had to do and we just want to talk about them.
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So we're just gonna read it, we're gonna read one of them and then we're just gonna share a little bit and we're just gonna go down the list.
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All right, is that cool?
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So, queen, we can like tag team, we'll just go back and forth all right.
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So the first thing that they list is, uh, as one of the hardest things you'll ever have to do with your money is.
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Okay, this is great.
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We just go dive in turning down a family member's request for a loan my lord have you ever had to do that?
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Have you ever had to or or or be on the other side having to ask for it?
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that's hard too, right, yeah, no, for real, you know.
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And I think a lot of times, especially in the middle adult in the millennial phase, you know like we came through some rough economic times, right.
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And like, coming out of my master's degree program, I was unemployed for a bit of time, right and sleeping on a best friend's couch.
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Shout out, jeanne, I love you.
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Forever sleeping on a best friend's couch.
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Shout out, jhane, I love you forever.
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Shout out, I was getting like $92 a week in unemployment.
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And when I tell you, that's how I learned how to cook, because when you're sleeping on someone's couch and you haven't gotten a job yet, you better contribute somehow.
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And so I was in there.
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Like she came home, I was like, is that roast and potatoes on the table?
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Yes, it is, yes, it is.
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And so I feel like I've just been in circumstances where I've been blessed that people were willing to sow into my life.
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You got to put it in spiritual terms, you know, people were willing to sow a seed into my future.
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But I've also been in positions where people have asked me for things that I've had to say no to.
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Have asked me to cover expenses for a family member that I one was unable to.
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Because they have a perception of oh, jaquita went to college, jaquita got a good job working down there at that good university making what they think is that good money.
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And they also think Jaquita doesn't have any kids, so Jaquita should have money and should be able to.
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You know, blah, blah, blah.
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And Jaquita don't got it quite yet, quite like y'all think I do.
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But the perception, especially as a first generation college student, the perception is is that you are killing it and I have had to when I make my budget.
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You know, of course, there I'm a giver, so I'm going to find ways to give, but I have to be really mindful about the ways that I do give.
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But I also, again, in that same token, I have to be, I have to be mindful of the way that I've been provided, for.
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Jaquita wouldn't have gotten to where Jaquita is without the people who have kept her up until this point.
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And so you know, there's some things.
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I really try to be led by the Lord in the way that I'm giving.
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There have been times where I have really financially poured into the lives of other people and I told the Lord that I would.
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There was a scripture, lord, I have to find it.
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I told the Lord that I would.
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There was a scripture, lord.
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I have to find it.
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I told the Lord that I would be a lender as long as he needed me to, and when I tell you, it was a blessed place to be.
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But I also learned a lot in that and I had to learn to set boundaries and limits on that.
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But I also had to agree to be a cheerful giver in that sense.
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But there are boundaries and I think boundaries is what's important to learn.
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And I think so in this article.
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It kind of says you know, it gives a hard answer to that, like you should always like.
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Basically, the best thing to say is just say no, right.
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That's kind of their opening line for it, and I do think there's nuance to it.
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Like you said, queda, there's nuance to it and there's a recognition that you didn't get here by yourself, but there is the boundary.
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Setting boundaries is going to be key and also be realistic.
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So sometimes it may not be a no, it might not be a right, it might be a no, not right now, and it's not a never, but it might be a not now.
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Here's the other thing.
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That's just what I one of the things, one of the my father, my parents I'll say my parents, but my dad, I heard it from my dad the most um taught me a lot of things.
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This is one of the most important things they taught me.
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I literally have grown up this, uh, grown up like this and still hold true to it today.
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He said never give a loan.
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He said if you're going to give somebody money, give it to them, period, don't.
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Don't have this exchange.
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That's where there's in your family close, not close whatever.
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He also told me this.
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He also said never, never require gas money.
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Never ask somebody to do gas money.
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He Say you've been too blessed for that.
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Don't do that.
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Right.
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And and I I've.
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Those two things are stuck with me Whenever, whenever I've given rides.
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When I was, I was one of the um.
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Only one of my friend groups had a car at the time, and so I'd be picking folk up.
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Let me get you gas money.
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No, I don't want it.
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I'm good, Like, even if I didn't really have it.
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That's just not an expectation I'm about to come with, Like, no, don't, don't give me gas money.
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And if somebody asked me for money and I have it, I'm never going to require you to pay me back.
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Now, if you decide on your own accord, I just want to do this because I just want to do it.
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That's on you and I'm and I've also learned not to deny people that opportunity to do it, to pay it forward, even if pay it back.
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I will say that right, Because sometimes that's what people?
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need to do, even for themselves.
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But you know, never require it and I and, and so those two principles for me have really, really helped with my understanding of money.
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Because if we do believe in Quita and I believe right in a god that has an abundant cattle on a thousand hills, I threw it out there, right, yeah, lord.
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so at the end of the day, we understand, we believe that our the source is the source Like we know it's coming back right, but there are some moments where it's just like I ain't got it, like I ain't got it, I can't do it, and we have to be okay with saying that, because there is a responsibility, I'll say this other thing and I'll be done.
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This is one of the things, one of the revelations that came.
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This was a few years ago, but, um, you were created by god.
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You were produced by your parents, but you were created by god.
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God owns you, not your parents my lord they are.
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they're responsible to be stewards of what God created.
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But they don't own you.
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And so when you get to a place of independence financially, you have to remember that you are not your parents, don't own your money, don't own your time, don't own that.
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And so you then have the opportunity to invest back into the people who invested into you.
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But you have to be wise about when you're going to be able to do that, and that is a really difficult thing, which is why it's on this list.
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It's a hard thing to do, but if you don't do that, if you kind of just continue to answer that call for family members or friends or whoever before you're ready, you'll never get to a place where you can actually thrive financially.
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And there is just a reality to that, and then the people who are calling and pulling on you will only get scraps from you, because that's all you're ever able to build up, because you keep giving away too soon, I mean, I think I think you also have to be mindful and we don't have to stay stuck here, but you also have to be mindful, like I believe in intentional sewing.
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You know like sure, there's time that you're giving, but you know if there are things that you are giving into, you got to be mindful of what you're giving into.
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Are you giving into a bad mindset?
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Are you?
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giving into their own.
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You know, disregard for, like, financial management and are you giving.
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Like you know, sometimes stuff really does happen, right, and so, like money, for me, money can't be the top priority, right.
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So, like when I'm thinking about, if my mom came and asked for anything, you know, I know my mom, I know how she financially stewards, I know how she, you know X, y and Z, like there's not, that's not going to be a question in my mind, because I know what I'm giving into, I know that I'm pouring something that's going into good soil right now.
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Every, every request for money isn't like that.
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And but you know, like I've, I've just been around, you know, just as you're considering whether or not to give, if you have it right, all of this conversation is if you have it right.
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This is, this is an if you have it conversation.
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Right, if your bills are paid, if you, you know you're talking about what you're taking out of your storehouse, you know, I I just think that when you're making those decisions, it's, it's not a money decision at that point that's good.
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it's not a money decision, and so I think that there's more to pray about, more to think through as you're making that decision versus you know I'm gonna cut and dry I don't give out loans like I don't give you know I I'm going to cut and dry I don't give out loans Like I don't give you know.
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I think that there's a heart issue there that you should consider Like why is my heart so tied to this money in that way that I can't that?
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I can't that.
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I won't allow God to allow me to be a disbursement center with that.
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So I don't know.
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No, I think that's real good.
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That's a hard one for them to start off with.
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They could have led into that one.
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You know that's tough, they went straight into it.
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Yeah, that's tough.
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We'll move on, though, Cause you know that's that's hard.
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Y'all bite and chew on that as you as you will.
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Okay, so the second one.
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Pray and discern.
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Pray bite Bite to emperor, all right.
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So the second one is learning how to live within or below your means, child, when the means ain't meaning okay, I cannot.
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Living at or below your means when the means ain't meaning Like, these means don't even mean yeah, they're not.
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Even the means are not meeting the needs of my life, right?
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And so when you watch me live below app, there's this little like metric on there that says oh, you know, jaquita, your typical spending, you typically spend, you know, $200 more than what you make, all right.
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Or you know you are you're spending 300 less than what you bring in, right?
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And it either tells you good job, or it's like caution lights.
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You know, and I really you know, I try to live my life so that that little metric will show that.
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That little metric will show that I've been living beneath, you know, living beneath the mean.
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But it's like a constant check for me.
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Like one time years ago, it was like you spend $600 more than you make and I was like, how do I do that?
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What do I need to do?
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Right, but it it?
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It cautioned me to go in and check through my spending habits.
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I was like, wait a minute, okay, something about the way that I'm spending is off because there's no way.
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That means I'm pulling from savings, I'm using credit cards right, I'm using money that I don't actually have, Right, and so it's a check in my spirit to say okay, go reevaluate the way that you've been spending because something's off.
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Yeah and that, and I think, going back to what you said earlier, what's the motivation behind the overspending and and really really having some difficult conversations with yourself and or with somebody else Like you, really talk about that, because there's a what are we?
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What are we trying to prove?
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What are you trying to avoid?
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What are you trying?
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What do you think you deserve Right?
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Those types of questions go way beyond money.
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Money is just the fruit of that, and so when you start finding yourself spending other people's money, aka using a credit card, my lord, uh, you don't have right now spending money you do not have right on things that you don't need right um you got to ask yourself where's that coming from?
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because that there that is.
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That is actually a symptom of something a lot deeper and because that living within or below your means, that means can grow right.
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Your means today don't have to be your means in 10 years, but it will be if you don't take care of it.
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Yeah, and the thing about it is is that that's not determined by your habits.
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Determine how much overflow you have, not your income right.
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Correct.
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Ruth felt that in her soul right, I do, Because you can make more money.
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But that little chart can still say okay, but you still have the same habits, You're still spending more.
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You made more, so you went out and spent more, and so now you don't have anything in the storehouse, Right?
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I remember when I had a couple of jobs ago not not at the current one, I had, you know, we would get off work on Fridays early and my little treat to myself was I worked hard this week.
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I deserve to go out in these spending streets.
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Okay, and so I would.
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I have my little circuit of little stores I used to go visit every Friday.
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You know, I'm like I need to see what's in TJ Maxx.
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I need to hit Nordstrom, rack up.
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Let me see what's at the old Navy, Right?
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And so I'm just walking in these stores.
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I haven't written out my budget, I don't have a.
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I don't have a spending plan for how much money I even have to spend.
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And you go in that store and you convince yourself.
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I'm also a coupon queen and sometimes for all of my couponers it's a trap, baby, it's a trap.
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Just because you get 20% off don't mean you need to buy it right Just because you think you'll never see it at this price again.
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It'll never be $10 again.
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Yes, it will.
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Can we, can we just pause and we?
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Can we just give the Lord a praise for this shift?
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I don't need it.
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I don't need to do that.
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There was a day.
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Let me have a moment.
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Let me have my moment.
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There was a day, oh, there was a day, Lord.
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There was a day, Ooh, there was a day, Lord.
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There was a day when that those phrases wouldn't have come out of her mouth.
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Boy, Ooh, that does my soul good, Because that's the kind of thing I'll be like yo.
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That don't make no sense, queen.
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Okay, you get 50% off.
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You ain't got the money for the 50%.