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well, hello everybody, and welcome once again to the unlearned podcast.
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I'm your host, ruth abigail aka ra what up, peeps?
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it's your girl, jaquita and this is the podcast that is helping you gain the courage to change your mind so that you can experience more freedom.
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And and, yeah, we are in our series on learning personality and look, we've gotten a lot of good feedback from you all.
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We've got some really good, I think, thoughts and conversations and comments.
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So y'all keep liking and commenting and sharing and subscribing and following to the unlearned podcast 're really, really appreciative of that.
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if you watch youtube, make sure to like the video.
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It helps get the video out so that other people, new people, can catch it, uh, and so, yeah, man, like this is we, we are, we're in this thing with y'all, we really appreciate y'all, so we just we want to, we want you, um to uh continue to let us know what, what, what you're thinking about, what we're doing, what we're talking about.
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For sure, and it's always.
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It helps us to learn more about what's connecting with people and like, where are, like, high points in the conversation?
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Are, like, the points that are really, like you know, resonating with the community?
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You know we're part of the community too, so we know what's resonating with us.
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Correct, but you know we want to know what's resonating with you guys.
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Correct Um, alright, so Queda, what's up you doing?
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Alright, I'm doing pretty good, ruth.
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Abigail, I'm doing pretty good.
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Ready to dig deeper?
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Okay, ready to dig and learn and grow Learn and grow.
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Dig learn and grow.
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Dig learn and grow.
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And so, okay, we've been in this Learning Personality Series and we've been using personality assessments to have the conversation around.
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Wait, what just happened?
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We just lost it.
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I don't know what happened, joy if you could just edit that.
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No, I don't know what happened.
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We absolutely cannot edit it out.
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No, it's okay, move on.
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Excellent, very good, okay, good.
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So so, yes, so yes, we're, we're doing personality and we're doing assessments and we have done um several so far.
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So if you haven't, if you haven't listened to any, go back and listen to some, but today we're this is, I think, our newest one like newest, newest kid on the block.
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As far as the assessment is concerned, yes, I don't.
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I mean, a lot of people may not have heard about it.
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It is brand new, like it's only like.
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I would like to say I consider myself to be an expert in personality assessments and I had not heard of this one, so y'all are, y'all are getting this one fresh off the press yeah, this is new press.
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This is new.
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I was introduced to it through through a podcast that I listened to called the Art of Leadership Podcast with Carrie Newhoff Excellent podcast and an author and speaker his name is Patrick Lencioni has introduced this to the world.
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It is called the Working Genius Assessment the working genius um assessment, and so what it assesses is six working geniuses that everybody has.
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Uh, this is what we've talked a lot about.
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Um, uh, a lot of the assessments, and most assessments are really, uh, looking at how, how you as an individual works, looking into just the way that you are, your strengths, your personality, the way that you communicate, the way that you handle conflict and all these things, and so this is really designed to help people understand how they work in the context of a team, and particularly how they work in the context of a team, and particularly how they work in the context of a team that is working towards something right, that is doing something uh specific.
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So the the core focus is really helping people um understand how they fit in a team setting, and so you can really see this clearly when you're looking at, like, like you're working on a project right together and you're trying to accomplish something, and these working, you can see these working geniuses in that.
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So this is not just for work, right, I mean, this could be.
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You, could, you could.
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This could be useful for planning, planning a vacation, right.
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Planning planning a vacation right.
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Uh, we, we, my, my group of friends, um, of which quita is a part, uh, we try to do some version of a trip every year and try, try being the operative word this is tough and even in this, even in this moment, I'm thinking like I wonder if we all take this and then apply it, I wonder if we'll actually get the trip done.
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Yo, let's do it like for real.
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Yeah, I really think that could work because I think that could make for an amazing time like yeah because we've been trying to do a group, we haven't done a full group trip in like what a long number of years since before people had kids.
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So yeah, oh, shoot, that's probably six years.
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So we gotta figure this out.
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So, like, it can be used for that.
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It can be used for that.
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It can be used for family stuff.
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It can be used.
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It can obviously be used for work.
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It can be used for something that you want to.
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You know, maybe you're planning a conference with your church, or maybe you have an idea that you want to see put out into the world.
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This podcast is a great example.
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Like all, like the three of us, you know who work on this thing.
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Um, we all have working geniuses in order to produce this podcast, right, and so we all find ourselves in our, in our space, and we, we, we bring it to the table, and then there is a uh something at the end that we could see the tangible that we all worked for.
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So that's really what this particular assessment helps you to do.
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How do you work in the context of a team that's trying to get something done?
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Um, so there are six different geniuses that, uh, that this assessment, um, tries to lay out.
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All right, so I'm going to go through all of them and then, for each one, when you take it, you'll basically get a dominant and a secondary, uh, and, and then we'll we'll go from there and then we'll share with what you take it.
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You'll basically get a dominant and a secondary, and then we'll go from there.
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Then we'll share with what ours are.
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So you have the first one wonder, okay, wonder.
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The description of that is people with the genius wonder I'm sorry, genius of wonder are naturally curious, asking big questions.
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They see potential spots, gaps, and envision what can be improved.
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They're the people that like to think of the big idea right.
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Then you have invention.
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Right, you have people that love creating solutions.
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These are your problem solvers, who really are going to take that idea and say, okay, this is how we're going to get there, this is the thing that needs to happen in order to do what it is.
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You're thinking about All right, and then you have discernment the people who have a strong sense of intuition and judgment.
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They evaluate ideas and decisions quickly.
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They see what will and won't work.
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Then you have galvanizing.
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These are the people that get the team excited about doing the thing.
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Okay, they are rallying people, they generate energy and they inspire action.
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And then you have enablement.
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These are the people that want to actually make the thing happen.
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These are your ground workers.
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These are your.
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Give me the scissors.
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Let me cut up the letters.
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These are the.
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You know I'm going to do this right.
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You need those people, you need those people right.
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They are ready to support the, the, the, the vision.
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They want to.
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They want to put their hands to something.
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Um, and then you have the tenacity.
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These are the people that make sure it gets done.
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These are the people that that that aren't going to let you stop in the middle of the project.
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They're going to remind you of the deadline.
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They're going to say, hey, y'all we have, this is due on on on November 12th.
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It is now November 8th.
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When?
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How are we going to get this done?
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Right, they are committed to finishing the project, all right.
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So those are your, those are your six.
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So, queda, tweet up.
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Which ones are you?
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All right, friends, let me tell you which one I am.
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I am not that tenacity person.
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I'm not reminding nobody, no, deadline.
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Usually, you know, when I had a team I no longer have a team, which is a very different place to be when I had a team they were the ones reminding me there's a hey, you know, we got this thing.
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I'm like oh yeah, we got the thing.
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But I am the discerner right, so naturally gifted to use intuition and instincts to like.
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And it was interesting because I was like no, I'm an ideator, like I'm really good at you know, creating ideas.
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No, I'm really good at assessing ideas.
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I'm really good at seeing what's on the table and figuring out what to do.
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Like my ideas are sparked by what's already there.
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Like I don't just sit in a void and be like you know what?
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I want to create a podcast.
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That would be Ruth Abigail.
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Okay, what I'm good at doing is saying here's how we're going to make that thing work and here's some things we can do once we get in there.
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So discernment and then galvanizing, I'm going to make that thing work and here's some things we can do once we get in there.
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So discernment and then galvanizing.
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I'm going to get you energized about it.
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I'm going to inspire and motivate the people.
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All right, everybody's going to leave pumped.
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You know what they used to have.
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So when you work in higher ed, right, every higher ed place I've worked at and nonprofit place I've worked at the United Way campaign is like a huge deal, like where United Way is going to all of the partner agencies and like getting them to raise money from their staff.
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When Girl Scouts figured out that I could be the one to get the money out of people's pockets, oh, they were like Jaquita, go do the thing thing.
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And I was like I want to show you guys a video a woman on the street crashed over by the waves, you know, and by the end of it, tears.
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Okay, by the end of me doing my plea for people to bring that money out of their pockets, they were, they were galvanized, okay, so, yeah, those are definitely my two.
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And then so, like you have, like your working genius and then your working competency, I can and am capable of doing the innovation piece or the invention piece and the enablement, and then wonder absolutely not that curiosity piece, that's all.
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Ruth, abigail, you want somebody who's curious?
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Call Ruth Do me I'm not curious for sure, and so, once again, we uh the only one that we don't have between us, the only one that is like a solid, uh, working, uh, like one that's just very frustrating, so like she's a working genius, working, compet, and then things that just frustrate you, that tenacity part is not.
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We need neither one of us have that at all.
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I ain't got time for that Because we're millennials.
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I told y'all about the.
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I told y'all last week about the millennial managers.
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Okay, but there are.
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It is necessary, like all these different geniuses are are essential, right that that's like, if you didn't have the tenacious people, we just be floating out here with unfinished products and unfinished ideas and just moving on to the next thing and that's not helping anybody and so we gotta have that it.
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But it doesn't represent like so we have to have that person and, quite frankly, y'all have been introduced to producer joy.
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I'm pretty sure producer joy is that uh, you know what?
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you know what which is absolutely oh wait a minute, the light bulbs are firing off.
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Absolutely.
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Let me tell y'all something joy gets so frustrated when we come on here.
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We're like, okay, we're just gonna freestyle joy's like you.
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You will not, you trifling so and so, through this and no here's the plan and here's what you're actually gonna do here's how long we listen and she lets us know how long we have and how long we've been into the podcast, and she'll make sure that we're aware that, so that we can at some point this thing has to be done like what y'all don't know is that joy also gives us a grade after every she does, after every taping she's like.
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We rarely get a's minus.
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Yeah, yeah, me and ruth abigail, we'll leave.
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That was the one, that was the.
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We changed the game with that, enjoy.
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She does.
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We love you, joy, we love Joy, and we love it because it's so necessary.
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It all works together.
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Now, it is not always easy, right, because we're very different, and we'll get into this later in the conversation, but you have to allow.
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You have to allow.
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Joy is loving this later in the conversation.
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But, like you have to allow, you have to allow.
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Joy is loving this, by the way.
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She's absolutely loving the fact that we are talking about her and she can't respond, and so we and so you have to allow everybody's genius to work right, because it's what makes the thing that you're trying to put out the best right.
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And so.
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I am.
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One wonder in my two top two geniuses is wonder and invention.
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I am, I am, I am the starter, I am the one who comes up with the idea, I'm the one who says, okay, um, like, like, this podcast is a great example, I want to start a podcast and let's, and this is what the podcast is going to be about.
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And and you know, like I've gotten, I had notes and notes of ideas and different ways to think about it, and every day I'm going back and I'm I'm writing things down and I'm rephrasing stuff, I'm just thinking about it.
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I'm listening to other podcasts and getting ideas from them and you know all those things, right.
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And then the invention part comes with what, what does this, how this podcast is going to look?
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What, what, what are the nuances of this versus that?
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Like, what is it that I really want to talk about?
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What is it that we really want to?
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You know, kind of, try to change in the world, right, um, and how are we going to use the podcast to do that?
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Uh, the other, you know what, what are the I come, I come.
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I've told, I've mentioned several times to joy, it's like we want to.
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You know all these different other ideas like let's do uh, there are certain things with the podcast that I want to do.
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I'm not gonna give them away today, but there's certain things with the podcast that I would like to do that I have thrown out there that I know are I'm.
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It's gonna need other geniuses to really move it along, because at my best, I'm coming up with the idea, I'm communicating it and I'm, a lot of times, framing it in a way that makes sense.
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My working competencies are the discernment and galvanizing.
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I can do that.
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That is something I'm able to do, and the frustrating pieces for me are the enablement.
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I am not the person to cut the paper.
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Don't ask me to do that.
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I am not that.
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Don't ask me to do that, like I, I am not that I am.
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The other day, uh, we were writing thank you notes for, um, our, our donors, right For the luncheon that we had and I had my job.
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Like art was like okay, we got to get these thank you notes out.
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Uh, I want the kids to write some of the thank you notes.
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Um, and we thank you notes and we I've used some templates we used in the past and all this stuff, and I had to kind of like everybody did their part.
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By the time we got to the, to the center, to do the thank you notes, I started writing a note and I was like I have about one and a half minutes before I get distracted and think about something else and have somebody else come finish these notes.
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I'm not going to be able to do this for long.
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Like so the kid.
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I was like, hey, because I was going to write some of them and then the kids were going to write some, I said no, the kids going to write them all.
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Because I'm not going to be able to do it.
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And it's not that I don't want to do it, it's that my brain just doesn't stay there long enough to get it done.
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And I'm going to get a phone call or I'm going to remember I have to go send an email.
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I have to.
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You know I'm going to think about something that's going to distract me and those things aren't going to get finished.
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So you just have to know where you belong.
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I don't belong cutting paper or writing notes.
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That's not where you want me.
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You don't want me there.
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You really stuck on that cutting paper.
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I don't know.
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I feel like we need to branch out what that one looks like when I think about enabling like scissors and construction paper.
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No, that's what I think about.
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You know, I'm saying like, when I it's like excellent, it's literally they're excellent supporters.
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They're gonna like the tasks that need to get done to do the thing.
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They're the people to do that right.
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And sometimes I don't know.
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I look at that.
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I'm like man, am I a bad person?
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Because that's not.
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I'm not a good supporter like I would.
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I was like yo, like if somebody asked me to just go and hey, will you go and stuff these bags with like, and I'm like, uh, I mean, yeah, and I want to be someone who's like, of course I will stuff six bags and then something else will happen and the bags will not get stuffed and I sometimes I feel bad about that Like, but then, but again, it's just not.
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It's not my genius, you know it's not what I do.
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The thought that immediately comes up for me is that little girls were told that, like you, have to be helpful.
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Man.
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And and be like and be the person that you have to be, like the homemaker, like the, the person who's always doing the things and always serving everybody else and like, whereas sometimes little boys are like pushed to be like, hey, you get to go think and innovate and go build and be in charge, you know Like, and so I think a part of it is just like the way we're groomed and so like the guilt is coming from like that societal expectation slash norm that is like making you feel like.
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But I don't think, cause I don't think like a man is like man.
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I feel bad.
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I'm not helping them cut these little pieces of paper.
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No, they're for sure not.
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Yeah, no, they're like, that's not my job.
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Right, right, not doing that.
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That's correct.
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No, I agree, and that's a good point.
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I've never, I don't think I considered that.
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Yeah, you're socialized to believe that you should be.
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I've never, I don't think I've considered that.
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Yeah, you're socialized to believe that you should be helpful.
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You know, like, when it's for some people, like that is really natural for them.
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Like you know, I think in my, in my world, like I am willing to do because I come from the eventing world, I am willing to do whatever it takes to make sure the event goes well.
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Also, I really care about aesthetics, so we're not going to look just any kind of way.
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So, if I got to put the decorations up, I'm putting the decorations up.
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If I got to organize the chips on the table instead of somebody just throwing them on the table, I'm going to sit there and I'm going to be organizing the chips.
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Right, you know so.
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Like for me, it's feeding a greater purpose.
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Right, you know so?
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Like, for me it's feeding a greater purpose, but doing it for the sake of doing it.
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That's why it's a competency and not a genius.
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Yeah, like that's a good point I'm not excited about it, I'm just.
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I want it to look a certain way, so I'm willing to do the work that I have had to unlearn about these geniuses is that my genius isn't genius in every situation.
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So, in other words, every situation doesn't call for wonderment and invention.
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There are, there's a time, a place for that, and sometimes there's a time and a place for we just need to get this done.
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I tell people I'm not the person you call in a crisis.